The Penitent Priest

My wife died in my arms, the victim of a nameless killer's bullet. I should have died with her. But God had other plans for me. Fifteen years later, I'm back where it all happened. I just want to forget, but the past won't leave me alone. Now, I'm asking a woman who I left broken-hearted twenty y ...

When Lalla and her dad take a trip to Arizona to inspect her new property, Dad disappears. Panicked that he's lost in the desert, Lalla enlists the help of a local tracker and finds him unharmed at the bottom of a mine pit. But dad has company. A very dead local police chief. And within a stone's t ...

The Killing Game

The stakes are high when DI Jack Husker is drawn into the world of high stakes gambling. Behind a veil of secrecy lie the clues to a murder. Can Jack get anyone to speak when one of his own is put at risk in a case where nothing is left to chance?

The Sweet Taste of Murder

The only thing worse than a used car salesman showing up on your doorstep is finding one dead. After a scandalous divorce, Elise returns from the big city to her southern home town only to trip over the body of the town playboy. He leaves behind a heap of trouble that includes missing money, missing ...

Nightmares of Caitlin Lockyer

Six months ago, Nathan's sister was brutally murdered. Now the 23-year-old playboy desires only one thing: revenge. Late at night, Nathan trudges down the beach where his sister's body was found. He's searching for answers, but all he finds is a new nightmare: another girl's tortured body. Only this ...

Through Vira's Eyes

Trapped in a bunker in Ukraine's war zone with her family, five-year-old Vira is thrown into an adult world where terror awaits around every corner. Encouraged by her faith to be optimistic, Vira sees angels working for her good. A short story from the award-winning anthology "Children of War." Chil ...

Serena McKay Crime Novels Complete, Books 1-2: A Dystopian Crime Series

5 Star Review -- Dystopian Crime with a Vengence! Meet Serena McKay former police officer turned PI. Meet a cast of the extremely rich and the equally poor people. Indulge in a vision of the future that will make your hair stand on end. In August City there are four areas. One for the super-rich, ...

Cliff Diver: Detective Emilia Cruz Book 1

Imagine if you were the first and only female police detective in Acapulco, investigating crime in a city both breathtaking and deadly. Mexican drug cartels battle for control and politicians are bought with blood money. The detective squadroom reeks of machismo. The lieutenant is a dirty cop who ha ...

Death At A Diner

GET A FREE PREQUEL TO THIS SERIES WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR NANCY'S NEWSLETTER (LINK INSIDE!) Nora Newberry has been working to make her dreams come true and finally, after 10 years, it's time! She’s moved back to her hometown of Milburn, Wyoming, and, together with her lifelong best friend, Raquel Ma ...

The Panama Murders

Based on a true story.

People on a remote Panamanian island are disappearing, and the local police are incompetent.
Who you gonna call?

Cat Flaherty.

When the love Seattle PI Catrina Flahertys life turns out to be a serial killer, she turns him over to the polic ...

They Never Came Home

After her husband, Bruce, is gunned down on the street, Linda calls every hospital but can't find him. Days later, she finds out Bruce is alive and being held in a local jail. When she visits him, she sees no signs of gunshot wounds. Soon Linda realizes the man she visited in jail is not her husband ...

The Vermeer Deception: An Art Mystery

An art historian finds – then loses – a portrait by Johannes Vermeer in this thrilling art mystery set in Munich, Heidelberg, and Amsterdam. When Zelda Richardson investigates a new lead about a missing portrait by Johannes Vermeer, no one expects her to actually find the painting in a retired art d ...

Mirror, Mirror on Her Wall

… The forgotten envelope was like the proverbial can of worms… now that she had opened it, she knew the past would come crawling out, one slimy piece at a time…

Photojournalist Kenzie Reese has spent the past eight years trying to forget her past. Now the Mafia is looking for her f ...

Civility Rules

When former football player turned etiquette author, Edward Harlow, arrives at Inglenook Resort to give a lecture about all things genteel, the discovery of a corpse in the guest room next door sends his ordered world spinning out of control. His loyal secretary and brother, Nicholas, scrambles t ...

Cedar Bay Cozy Mysteries Series #1

Save over 50% with this boxed set! Now you can enjoy the first three books in the popular Cedar Bay Cozy Mystery Series: Kelly's Koffee Shop, Murder at Jade Cove, and White Cloud Retreat all together. Plenty of dogs, food, recipes, and quirky characters! Join Kelly, and her soon-to-be husband, Sheri ...

*****Voted one of 50 self-published books worth reading, 2016***** 

USA Today Bestselling author, Anna Celeste Burke, brings you murder, mayhem, and a second chance at love! Mystery, food, and a Siamese cat named after Miles Davis, too. 

It's not easy doing Public Rel ...

Girl on the Run

Chessa Paxton, an event planner in Lake Tahoe, celebrates a successful night at the Happily Ever After Ball, but her dream quickly becomes a nightmare when she wakes up beside the body of her dead husband. Nauseous and confused, feeling as if she's been drugged, she can't explain to the sheriff why ...

The Reverend's Cold Case

Tony Wagner's former foster daughter, Christi Fischer, asks him to investigate when one of her client's disappears. Chisti is a social worker at a women's shelter in Pueblo, Colorado.

Miranda Carrington had moved to her own place a month before. When her parents reported her missing, inve ...

Sam's Top Secret Journal: Sam's Secret Island

Sam is an eight-grade girl living a regular life, enjoying her family, school and traveling. She doesn't feel different but sometimes others treat her differently because she has Down syndrome. Sam's private journal chronicles what begins as a summer vacation...and turns into a brand new adventure, ...

Last Call, A Janet Black Mystery

Unfazed after finding a body shoved behind the dumpster of her bar, Janet Black is ready to open for business as usual, until police start eyeing her boyfriend as the possible killer. When the victim’s teetotaling daughter decides to take up residence in the corner booth until the murderer is caught ...

Deadly Sins

Some things are worth killing for! Alexandria "Xandy" Caras was charged with murder--a mass murder. The charges were dropped; the case dismissed. Or was it? A serial killer with a "Moses Complex" is out for blood--Xandy's blood--and the blood of those who have sinned against the Ten Commandments. Th ...

Winter Song

A widowed detective with nothing to lose. A hitman no one suspects. Who will win this dangerous game when the hunter becomes the prey? An icy winter night and a car has careened out-of-control and crashed. The driver, a beautiful young socialite, is slumped over the wheel, a bullet hole in her head. ...

Dying for the Past

Still an earth-bound spirit-detective, Tuck is on the case of the murder of a mysterious philanthropist with ties to the Russian mob and 1939 gangsters. With the help of his wife, Professor Angela Tucker, and his former partner, Detective Bear Braddock, they must find the killer and be the first ...

The Big Overnight

*This is a stand alone book in the Stella Reynolds Mystery Series* Sometimes The End is just The Beginning. When the suspect in a Knoxville shooting confesses on camera, police say the case is closed. But then TV reporter Stella Reynolds gets an anonymous email that changes everything. As she picks ...

The Adventure of Mata Hari's Harem: A New Sherlock Holmes Mystery (New Sherlock Holmes Mysteries Book 48)

“The German ambassador, madam,” said Sherlock Holmes, “is reputed to be brilliant and very difficult.”
“My dear, Mr. Holmes,” she said. “He is a man. Like all men when they are drunk and in the throes of ecstasy, he will be easy.”
“I must warn you, he has a reputation amongst men who ha ...

Truth Kills - A strong woman starting over mystery (PI Angelina Bonaparte Mysteries #1))

A murdered mistress. An accused mob boss. Can two detectives put their differences aside to find the real killer?

Angelina Bonaparte is starting from square one. After a messy divorce, the middle-aged librarian put down her books and picked up a new gig as a private inves ...

The Vanishing Heiress: The Unsolved Disappearance of Dorothy Arnold

Step back into 1910 and unravel one of history’s most perplexing mysteries in The Vanishing Heiress: The Unsolved Disappearance of Dorothy Arnold. Dorothy Arnold, a young and wealthy New York socialite, vanished into thin air after a shopping trip, leaving behind a trail of un ...

Lost Girl: A Paranormal Mystery

Renowned sculptor Allison Weathers doesn’t believe in ghosts. But when a tragic twist of fate leads her to the small mountain town of Dawson Mills, Tennessee, she soon learns that the dead don’t always stay silent…

Steel Trap: A Jack Steel Thriller

(This book can easily be read as a standalone, even though it's the 4th in the series.)

When Steel picks up a CIA asset with classified intel in the Bahamas, his team is hit hard and the mission blows up.
~The Jack Steel series is now in development for a major m ...

Complicit Witness

Top 5 Paid Amazon Bestseller in Crime. A smuggler stays one step ahead of the law until he's forced to choose between life behind bars or certain death for betraying his ruthless boss. As the 1970's melt into the 80's, Staten Island is loaded with gangsters and wannabes. It’s where Tommy, a wo ...

Death in Small Measures

It was one drink too many for 72-year-old Evelyn Guilfoyle, found dead the morning after a raucous party in the family’s back garden pub. But the woman had a terminal illness and would have been dead before the year was out anyway. Why the hurry...?

Family, friends and neighbors had cramm ...

Murder Has a Price

There’s a price on his head. But is he willing to pay it? Formula One racer Stacey James is back on the track, and life has returned to normal. Except there’s a killer on the loose and he’s looking for something. The question is: what? Jason Hunter, personal security specialist, once again fin ...

Angel of Mercy

 Angel of Mercy explores the line between justice and vengeance, mercy and murder.

Dr. Jim Briggs saves lives for a living—mostly canine ones. By night, among Chicago’s forgotten homeless, he offers a different kind of mercy.

Hush Now Baby

Something unusual is happening to Quinn Montgomery. Trapped inside her unconscious mind, the sound of her father’s soothing voice seeps through, and the past twenty-four hours comes flooding back. She wakes to find herself in the hospital. Her childhood best friend Evie is dead. But not just d ...

Happy Homicides 3: Summertime Crime

A Beach Read Bonanza -- A fun way to find your new “favorite” author. Number 3 in a series of bestselling mystery anthologies. Twelve traditional mysteries by a dozen bestselling and award-winning authors. With free bonus file of recipes and craft ideas. These clean mysteries are crimes committed i ...

eKill: A Techno-Thriller Heist

Romeo wrote his own death sentence on the eKill app when he mortgaged his organs. Unfortunately for him, Rebecca, the only one who can help him, wants him dead.

The DVD Killer

The sexually abused body of a young talented actress is discovered at Lake Mohegan, in wealthy Fairfield, Connecticut. Detective Frank Gianni’s sixth sense screams serial killer the minute he lays eyes on her. This erotically charged thriller calls upon the synergism of Detective Gianni and rooki ...

Vanishing Day: A Logan McKenna Mystery Book 4

Viciously attacked, Logan's neighbor clings to life in ICU, her three-year-old the only witness. Logan holds the only clue. Will it get her killed?

Logan soon discovers her new friend isn’t who she said she was. Without any ID, the police investigation stalls. Logan holds the only cl ...

Cash Kills - A strong woman starting over mystery (PI Angelina Bonaparte Mysteries #2)

A double murder. A mysterious inheritance. One PI is about to follow the money all the way into a den of thieves…

After surviving a bullet, Angelina Bonaparte was certain she could handle any case that came her way. But when her next client walks through the door with an unexplainable s ...

The Depths of Marla Adams

A mysterious epidemic grips the tranquil coastal town of South Padre Island, known for its scenic views of the Gulf and relaxed vibe.

The DEA sends Special Agent Marla Adams to investigate the rash of drug overdoses plaguing the town. But as she digs deeper, she stumbles upon something ...

A charter boat captain is found murdered on his own boat. One of the last to see him alive makes Logan a suspect…and the killer’s next target.

During the first vacation she's taken in years, Logan looks forward to sharing the beauty of the Oregon coast with Ben and her family. The ...

SWEET DREAMS, BABY

Who killed Judge Shaw Buchanan aka “the hanging judge,” on the day of his wife’s funeral? When Harper Buchanan, the judge’s estranged daughter, witnesses her father’s murder in the small town of Barley, New Hampshire, she promises to find his escaped killer. She hires local private investigator, Fin ...

The Executioner's Hood

Who killed Judge Grayson?
When Sheriff Jeff McQuede finds Durmont's highly respected judge, Phil Grayson, bludgeoned to death in his study, a black executioner's hood shoved over his head, he faces his toughest case yet.

The judge has many enemies, including Darin Keefe, senten ...

Sizzling Cold Case

Sizzling Cold Case…Tragic Accident or Cold Blooded Murder? Warren gets a chance to solve ‘the one big case that got away.’ But will he put the people he loves in serious danger by accepting this challenge? The first client of the Conley Austin Detective Agency brings an unsolved case from Warren’s p ...

Crime of Retribution

If you love clean, fast-paced mystery books that keep you guessing to the end, this book is for you! The captivating action begins with an executioner trying to kill Dan. Will Dan’s relationship with a local jazz singer prove to be more deadly than just a broken heart? Lea looks forward to w ...

As Georgie Shaw can tell you, it's not easy doing Public Relations for Catmmando Tom, a famous cartoon cat. When they find a dead body at the foot of Catmmando Mountain in Marvelous Marley World's Arcadia theme park it's a PR nightmare! Still, Georgie loves working at the "Cat Factory," but when som ...

Race into Murder

Jeff Frazier is a racehorse trainer whose talented colt has a bright future, until his horse becomes the motivation for murder. An elite jockey is killed, and the racing world is in chaos. When an innocent man is arrested, the fate of three families depends on finding the truth. As the trial date n ...

Eclairs and Extortion

Marriage, Menace, and Murder!

Is it just coincidence that a body turns up in the park the same day Maddie’s mom arrives in Maple Falls?

And who is the dark stranger wandering the streets of her hometown?

Preparations for a surprise seventieth birthday cele ...

Devil's Claw: A Logan McKenna Mystery Book 3

Someone is slaughtering the innocent. That someone has Logan’s daughter. Facing her worst fears, Logan must find and stop a killer before all is lost.

It's summer, and with a new job, a new life, and plenty of time for her music, life couldn't be better for Logan. She and her daught ...

Power in the Blood

A missing mom and a suspicious death force a reluctant detective out of self-imposed exile in this fast-paced mystery thriller with heart. Detective John Jordan thought he had put murder investigation behind him for good—his own good. Leaving Atlanta, he returns to Florida in search of the sere ...

Christmas Grift

A corpse, a cantankerous camel, an entertaining array of suspects, and a yule tide of problems along the way…it must be a Flo and Agnes Christmas! Who would have guessed Agnes would rub Penelope the cranky camel the wrong way? Or that Flo would find herself ankle deep in camel dung while fending off ...

One Fatal Night

One woman’s quest for revenge unearths a fatal secret from her past. Astrid Jensen holds one man responsible for her mother’s suicide, and she’ll do whatever’s necessary to get close to Daniel Holst and destroy his life – even if it means sleeping with him to gain his trust. Astrid knows he’s not wh ...

A Beastly Scandal

In November 1812, after a disastrous Season when Belle's unusual talent for sensing what's unseen lets her down and results in a man's death, a chance to atone for her past mistake sends her dashing to a haunted manor in the wilds of Cheshire, England, in the middle of a snowstorm. There, she meets ...

Sam's Top Secret Journal: Memorial Day

Sam is a ninth grade girl trying to enjoy her first year of high school. Sam knows she has Down syndrome but she doesn't feel different; even though other kids sometimes treat her that way. Sam's new adventure involves a mini family reunion, exploring the interesting spaces of a retired military bas ...

Murder Next Door

Everyone knows vampires don’t exist. So when Mildred Schmidt, one of Charlie’s customers, is convinced that her next-door neighbor’s house sitter is actually a vampire, Charlie of course has to step in to see what is really going on. What she finds is … disturbing. The house sitter DOES have some ...

Never Look Back in Texas

When Al agrees to help Fergie find the missing son of one of their long-ago high school classmates, they head off to a ranch in the valley, where some wide open spaces still remain in Southeast Texas. He is okay with following Fergie’s lead in the case, for a change, and even with riding horses. But ...

Risky Business, Another Murder

When a man engages in risky business, it’s not surprising he’s dead. When Donald Woodlawn, an investment advisor from Lynchburg, is shot dead in their quiet town, Sheridan Hendley can’t help but wonder why. As the secrets of his questionable financial dealings with investment clients unravel, she ...

Crime on Campus

Are you ready to escape into a mystery with captivating characters entangled in challenging situations? Join Lea Austin, a partner in the Conley and Austin Detective Agency, as she teams up with Dan Archer, a Texas Rangers lawman, to rescue his daughter before she gets deeper into her illegal act ...

The Cold Case

What happens when you stumble across a case that should never have been closed? “A story that will keep you guessing” Bookbub Reviewer Detective Mark Friessen uncovers a disturbing mystery: A little girl was taken, but when evidence disappeared, the case was closed. While cleaning out clos ...

Crying Woman Bridge

While returning from Professor Dawson’s lecture on haunted places, the last thing Sheriff Jeff McQuede and Dawson expect to encounter is a terrified woman clinging to the railing of Mirabella’s Bridge, crying for her lost baby. It looks as if Rae Harris has thrown the infant over the bridge in a ...

The Reverend: Murder In Medora

When a small plane crashes in the badlands south of Medora, North Dakota, killing the pilot, investigators find bullet holes, illegal weapons, and thousands of dollars. FBI Agent Gina Salvatore brings in consultant Tony Wagner to assist with the investigation. Salvatore tests Tony's patience from ...

Bagels and Blackmail

Petnapping in Maple Falls!

Big Red is more than a pet…

… so much more.

It turns out that he’s not the only pet taken, which is a catastrophe for the owners who, like Maddie, cons ...

Mine

My enemies wish they had never met me, and women wish they could forget me. I'm busy carving a name for myself in the mafia underworld, and I don't have time for the women who chase after me and wanna tie me down. They can get in line for the wildest f*ck of their lives and then they can get lost. I ...

Forest Park: A Logan McKenna Mystery Book 2

There’s a killer on the loose in Portland and no one is safe. Blocked at every turn, Logan McKenna must uncover the truth before more lives are lost.

It’s been two years since the fatal car accident that changed Logan’s life forever. She’s recovered most of her health, f ...

Las Vegas Crime

Detectives Laura Baxter and Jack Holt are members of the elite: Las Vegas Metro PD, one of the toughest and most respected law enforcement agencies in the United States. In the middle of a city with two million residents and 43 million annual visitors, they’re searching for a missing girl and the ru ...

Murder on Magazine

The 10th installment of the Skip Langdon series is a New Orleans feast for the senses, a canine love story, an action-packed police procedural made-to-order for readers who like their female sleuths bold, smart, and refreshingly human. A serial killer is using Airbnb units to stage his murders, but ...

Jasmine Steele Mysteries Vol. 1-4

A Not So Rustic Retreat

If there’s one thing more dangerous than fireworks, it’s dating.

Note to self: Lying facedown on the floor while my vacation home gets ransacked isn’t romantic. That break-in wrecked our simple lunch. Definitely not the date I had in mind.

My only reason for spend ...

A Beautiful Voice

“Jake Travis is one of the best leading men to take the thriller-fiction stage in recent years.” -Florida Weekly IT WAS MEANT TO BE A QUIET ASSIGNMENT—HOW DID IT GO SO WRONG? Jake Travis is ordered to smuggle ashore an accountant who can help place a notorious drug lord behind bars. Stash him in a c ...

Incarnate, The Third Entity

Jake McCallum was a deputy sheriff in rural Beecham County, West Virginia until he was wrongfully convicted and sentenced to federal prison. Adding insult to injury, Jake's best friend accused him of committing adultery with his wife. After having lost everything, including his will to live, Jake at ...

Angelina Bonaparte Mysteries Box Set (Books 1-3)

A divorcee in search of justice. A detective stuck in his old ways. Can an unlikely partnership survive a criminal conspiracy?

Three suspenseful mystery novels. Over 800 pages of justice served with a side of sass.

After her messy divorce, Angelina Bonaparte refuses to let ...

1917. Vienna. File clerk turned British agent, Fiona Figg, is more comfortable wearing a fake mustache than a ballgown. When a royal ball ends with a royal body in the middle of the dancefloor, Fiona trades her dancing slippers for practical oxfords and sets out to investigate. As she tracks her ...

The Last Legwoman: A Novel of Hollywood, Murder…and Gossip!

A world famous Hollywood columnist is murdered. Meredith Ogden, the columnist's "legwoman" (assistant), must investigate who committed the crime and why. In the process, she is thrust into a world of celebrity threats, assaults and her own career uncertainty. "High profile" special cases detective T ...

Time To Die

Everyone told DI Jack Husker it was a suicide. How could it be anything else? The note was written and the victim was found hanging in his apartment.
When Jack asks a few simple questions, the evidence begins to point to the victim's past.
Remember...you cannot hide from your sins.

Holiday Gone Wrong: A Short Mystery Story

After a tiresome year of computer programming, Zelda Richardson is back on the road – destination Panama and Costa Rica. Learning to scuba dive, exploring Central American rainforests, and climbing a volcano sounded like the perfect antidotes to Seattle’s spring rains. When a banana farmer tells her ...

A Mystery on Tyneside

Agnes Lockwood is no stranger to crime scenes, but even she is shocked when she finds the body of a man lying on the floor of the ladies' room. With her partner Alan - the local DCI - they set about tracking the murderer. This time, they are joined by her friend Sandra. But is one of them holding ...

Hidden Secrets: A Thriller

Grace escapes a kill order, only to be abducted. FBI links her case to murdered officials, threatening global stability. Trapped in a bunker, Grace allies with a child to escape. As they flee through tunnels, a misstep alerts their armed captor. A heart-pounding thriller for fans of Cross and All ...

Crime and Passion: Three Short Stories

Love and betrayal—the ingredients in any crime of passion. But how dangerous can desire be? For the women in these tales, falling in love may prove to be deadly.

"Readers who love strong women and terrific writing will applaud this anthology." —Barbara Nickless, Wall Street Journ ...

Concealed by the Tide

A wily bomber... A determined activist... A man with a secret... Summer Avery, a former-marketing fashionista, turned passionate eco-activist, abandons the bustle of New York City and scurries to the coastal village of Tide Harbor, Nova Scotia, determined to accomplish what the crazy bomber has not— ...

Fabricated Lies

Remo Wolf is a Chicago Police Officer haunted by memories of his tour in Afghanistan. Alcohol and his partner, Bobby Lynch, help soothe the rough edges. When Bobby is killed in a late-night ambush, his troubles escalate. When the police discover Bobby’s slaying is not an isolated incident, Wolf is o ...

Clouds of Grey

Solving crimes and chasing bad guys is what Cassie Hart does best ... on paper. Never in her wildest dreams did she expect to do it in reality. Sean Hedley and Neil Armstrong both have ulterior motives for trekking into a rainforest with Cassie. Bullets fly and she is left with partial amnesia, wond ...

Deadly Enterprise (Mike Stoneman Thriller #2)

“Championing the forgotten turns deadly in this pulse-pounding, edge-of-your-seat crime thriller.” -- Bruce Perrin, author of Killer in the Retroscape “Unique and twisted. Another home run by Kevin Chapman!” -- Michelle Files, author of The Many Lives of Ivy Wells THE DEAD GIRL THEY FISHED OUT OF ...

Designer Dirty Laundry

National bestselling author Diane Vallere delivers your new favorite fashionable amateur sleuth! Join Samantha Kidd as she trades high fashion for dirty laundry and learns a great wardrobe isn't enough to turn her life around, let alone catch a killer. She expected the fashion industry to be ruthles ...

Murder at the Cooking School: Cedar Bay Cozy Mystery, Book 7

Seven-Time Amazon All Star Author with her latest book in the highly popular Cedar Bay Cozy Mystery series

Cooking is nourishing. Murder isn't. Kelly and her husband, Sheriff Mike, take a belated honeymoon and travel to a cooking school at the Castello di Nardo in Tuscany. The day after t ...

The Bride Wore Dead

Snarky food critic Josie Tucker usually can soothe any problem with food or drink. Missed bus? Mango-orange smoothie. Mild doldrums? A piece of peppered beef jerky. But lately, she can’t stand the smell of a watery cup of broth. Being at the mercy of an indignant and vengeful stomach is no cup of te ...

Lies That Bind: A Logan McKenna Mystery Book 6

Rumrunners. Secrets. Murder! In the 7th thrilling addition to the Logan McKenna Mystery series, Logan’s persistent digging is about to get her killed.

Things are changing for Logan McKenna. She bought a fixer-upper with Ben on the Oregon coast and is about to meet her half-sister, Ol ...

The Reverend Goes Home

Dark Paradise

Going back home again isn’t just hard, it’s murder. Emotionally adrift, lonely after his wife’s death, Boise Montague does the thing no one should ever do: he goes back home again. Boise remembered the Caribbean home of his childhood – in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands – as a paradise. But when hi ...